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I did my bachelors in Engineering (Electronics), but i am interested in doing masters and phd in Physics. I have undertaken graduation level courses on Electromagnetism, classical physics, thermodynamics, relativity, and quantum physics.

I am from India, and i have an inclination towards cosmology.

I am seeking answers for some questions, please help

1) Does EU accept students for masters in physics, but with bachelors in engineering?

2) I don't want a terminal master program. Does EU offer a terminal master program, or they extend it to Phd, just like most U.S universities do?

3) Can you please give me a link or something where i can search for EU offering non-terminal masters program in physics.

4) Is applying to U.S, for Physics, better than Europe? i mean the research opportunities.
02-05-2014 10:41 PM
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This is in general a good point to start: http://www.mastersportal.eu/
For Germany: https://www.daad.de/
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The research opportunities in the basic sciences, are very good in Europe. However, this is just my opinion.

Considering your interests I'd suggest you take a look at the MSc Applied Physics program offered at TU Delft and the research offered by the university. Applied Physics at TU Delft has quite a lot of its research focussed on nanosciences as is the trend these days and since you have studied quantum physics already, with a bit of digging into solid state physics (refer to the book by Kittle) it should be fairly easy to grasp the courses they have to offer. Also, keeping in mind your interests in cosmology and the nanoscience focussed research in TU Delft, they have a group called the Cosmonanoscience group which is a section in the Kavli Institute of Nanoscience. If you look up Kavli you will be able to find it in only two other places in the entire world, MIT and CalTech, which should clearly tell you the reputation of not just the institute but the professors associated with the same, worldwide. Given your interests, I believe the Quantum Nanoscience track will be the ideal track for you to pursue in the MSc Applied Physics program at TU Delft. Here is the link to the track http://www.qn.tudelft.nl/en Take a look at it. I believe it should match with your interests and you'll like it.

What you must understand is, there is no concept like terminal MSc or MS+Ph.D in Europe. You graduate with an MSc degree post which if you meet the minimum criteria you can continue as a PhD student in the same university by simply signing a 4 year employment contract with them or else you could search for PhD elsewhere. Now luckily enough TU Delft has a pre PhD program too for Applied Physics students which is called Casimir Pre PhD Special Programme. So that should be an additional help.

In Europe, for a Ph.D the minimum requirement is that you possess an MSc degree, so given what your interests are, the links provided would be some good ways to begin probably.

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Ha! I didn't see this thread earlier before replying you in this thread. Continue here and ignore the other thread.

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EU universities specifies bachelors degree in physics as the basic requirement for the masters program, I have a bachelor's in engineering.
So I don't fulfill the basic requirements.

I am not sure if they can check my knowledge in physics through a test, and can decide my admission on the masters program using my score but not on my engineering background.
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I think we are over-stepping the point. Let know which program did you search for exactly and at which university. I saw your post here as well. Obviously the university will not conduct any specific test, specifically for you to check your knowledge on the subject. If you do not satisfy the minimum requirements, your application will not be considered at all.

Brief your profile completely as well.

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In TU Delft this is mostly not the criteria, you should meet the general criteria that TU Delft sets for all of its students from across all faculties.

Also, you can always write to the Recruitment officer of the faculty and ask her, if with so and so background you can apply to the programme. I believe it should not be an issue as you have also taken certain courses in physics in your undergrad.

There is always an alternate possibility where you apply to the EEMCS faculty and later change your program to the Applied Physics program with the Applied Sciences faculty. I have known people who have switched from Applied Sciences to 3ME as well. So, I am giving you an option. It's upto you if you want to choose it or not.

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Go ahead with what Rogue has said! Drop a mail to each university that you intend to apply and tell them that you had these courses in your UG and ask them whether will you be eligible to apply to the program with your undergrad degree.
Quote: have undertaken graduation level courses on Electromagnetism, classical physics, thermodynamics, relativity, and quantum physics.


Brief your UG syllabus in the mail and tell the credits of each course even. This will help them to evaluate yours. Make sure that you give the credits for Physics related courses at least even if you don't give for all.



Check this if you want. I was able to find one though I am not from your background. Physics was always Greek and Latin to me from the day I met it and I can't help you any further specific to hunting programs.
Try the links posted by Imagery@Apu in post #2 in this thread. There will be programs which don't need a UG degree from Physics specifically. Try to find them out.

Tag me if you need anything else apart from Physics and the related courses.

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I've seen Delft master course prerequisite already. They are more into applied physics, and my interest falls more towards theoretical physics.

But I will still try, and mail them all. I will mention the courses I have completed, and ask about the chances of getting selected.

Thanks for your help.

SridharAshokk

Thanks man, thanks for your input
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NB: I am not enrolled in any EU university. My opinions are formed from what I hear and see around me in Germany. So take my opinions with a pinch of salt.

1) Does EU accept students for masters in physics, but with bachelors in engineering?
Not sure. But I'm pretty certain it is not the same for all universities all over EU. One needs to check the requirements individually.


2) I don't want a terminal master program. Does EU offer a terminal master program, or they extend it to Phd, just like most U.S universities do?
I don't think so. As far as I know, after Masters degree, you have to apply again for PhD. There may be some universities offering an integrated program.

3) Can you please give me a link or something where i can search for EU offering non-terminal masters program in physics.
google.com

4) Is applying to U.S, for Physics, better than Europe? i mean the research opportunities.
In my opinion, its equally good.(or bad)

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nitinkatyal I have to agree on what Rogue said. But if you like stuff which has a lot of Physics you should definitely check out this program in my place Uni Jena. They have good reputation for Physics and quiet well known. MSc Physics with focus on Photonics at Abbe School of Photonics.

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