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Well, I've been seeing a lot of views exchanged (in Edulix and apart) on the subject of $-depreciation, Grad-edu in US being worth it considering present circumstances, ROI issue, top companies assigning new employees back to the division in their native countries and the consequences as such.

I'm actually a fan of Light-weight Clear VisionTM which can guide in these circumstances and help with keeping things in perspective.
Lemme explain this a bit here..

My strong focus and urge to do grad-study, beliefs in my abilities, dream to make a diff etc. not withstanding, even I'm at times intimidated or at least bothered by all the news regd dollar-dep., US eco, and scores of related items.. Adopting LCV helps me get my focus back.

Clear Vision in LCV means to have a clear-focus, have a dream; coz without that theres no point embarking on nethin.. And I shall safely assume that most of us have a 'CV' in why we want to do grad study.. It really helps if one decouples it from 'money-making' and getting rich..

I would actually pt out an example here. There's a guy by the name C.Mohan (IBM fellow and chief scientist) You can check his profile here.. http://www.almaden.ibm.com/u/mohan/. I've attended couple of technical talks whr he was the main speaker or CG and actually, one can learn the art of decoupling ('getting-rich' from 'love of research') from him. He keeps on re-iterating that when he finished his PhD from Austin in '81, silicon valley charm was on its peak.. He could've easily joined / launched a start-up.. stock-options.. got rich.. But, he din't.. Remained in research and is now an IBM fellow, world renowned guy.. and ya, is rich neways..

Read this as well.. http://www.kalpanamohan.org/personal.shtml ..

C. Mohan, is a database guru who believes that money corrupts and that absolute stock options corrupt absolutely. So they live on in the valley of dreams, one, a weaver of words, the other, a spinner of papers. .. This is the extreme case of 'clear vision' in LCV Wink.

And 'lightweight' is the back-door for those of us who won't end up like C.Mohan. I mean its not like everyone gets into Austin, writes a thesis, joins Almaden etc. So, LCV says 'be-lightweight'.. don't burden yourself with too much debt. Now, with due respect to all concerned people / parties, I'm not going to get into discussions on ROI on an MS from Stanford or job prospects after passing out from costly && top schools, but all I've to say is, 'in view of present situation / economic aspects, et al.', keeping yourself 'light-weight' helps just in case the CV part backfires. So, going for an MS to a univ for which you dun have to take a 'lot of loan' would give you options like.. pass-out, do a job in US or come back to India and do a job, do a job for sometime and then start off with your thesis (funded-PhD), or do something totally diff coz you suddenly feel that your life isn't meant for what you've been doin and you want to be, say a guitarist or a rockstar or want to become a dedicated Iscon member leaving all worldly attrcations [Wink], for instance..

Again, defining 'lot of loan' is very subjective and so is drawing a lower-cut on the kind of school you want to go to, but I still feel every person who's as mature as being an aspiring graduate shld know whr to draw the line. Being lightweight just gives us those extra options and freedom which is needed after all to realize the CV part.. and short-term, at least effectively decouples us in turn from economy and depreciation woes which I seriously think shouldn't be a priority for us right now.

Well, I find this line of thought very helpful, so thought of sharing. I'm not trying to generalize / target on anything living or dead Shame on you. This is a piece of information evangelizing an idea and is free to own (the TM not withstanding Whistle)

ATB and Cheers !

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that was a good read!!
cheers mate...

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after reading numerous posts about ROI and stuff all day today, this really helps the situation.

This is great aichilles... this is surely going to help in the long run. Good sound advice.

Good work!!

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good one aichelles....

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good work!! LCV it is! he he..

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Thanks guys.. I was really looking frwd to have a nice brainstorming session though.. nehow.. Think.. guess, I shld put a quote I read on testmagic forums (now urch.com).. Participate, Don't be a lurker.. Wink

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nice stuff....

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fantastic work Aichelles... Smile

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this is amazing and true stuff, and i would love to see people coming for MS with this mindset. the vintage American Dream thingy is not cool!! Razz

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good post mate

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very nicely compiled....holds true...not just for an MS...but for anything tht u intend to do in life...good job ..Smile

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Aichelles Wrote:410 views.. 10 replies.. busy people.. Whistle

Well, you need to think about it to reply to this post. Then there is the question of what to contribute. What can you say to add to this discussion? And many of the viewers have decided to not spam up your thread Razz I'll pick up what you're saying and go slightly off topic.

I happen to agree with you.
I guess we lose track of our aims in a morass of other minor things that somehow fail to remain as minor as they are. Two questions you need to ask yourself - what do you want? And how will what you are doing get you what you want? And are you sure that you aren't reaching for something in order to get or keep something else?

There is this Last Lecture by Randy Pausch* which is about living your dreams. He says - make a list of your dreams. Don't restrict it to the possible and the feasible. Really, what your dreams are -- and aim to get it before you die. It is a real must read (will put link in as soon as I find it again), he talks about what he did.

-- and so, money matters become minor. After all, to most of us, money is the means, not the ends. And the biggest confusion people have is mixing the two up. e.g.
I have a dream. I want to see the world - Russia, Japan, France. Go bungee jumping off Australian cliffs (no, no rational reason for it. I just want to.) and I could do all that if I had a lot of money, but if I went chasing after money, I could also lose track of my seeing the world in the jet-setting life style.

And so, clear vision is essential. Smile But I'd say don't limit your vision ... there are alternate routes to get what you want... and never let go of something impossible just because it seems impossible.

*Last Lecture being a series of talks held by Carnegie Mellon. They invite dying professors etc to give a talk - if you knew that this is your last lecture, what would you say? What would you share?

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Aichelles Wrote:410 views.. 10 replies.. busy people.. Whistle

Well, this was just a statement.. It wasn't meant to solicit nething.. Was just wandering about.. so thought of commenting something that just stuck me.. Wink..

Also, "busy people" was a general comment and wasn't implied from (410 views) && (10 replies).. Wink..

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Aichelles Wrote:410 views.. 10 replies.. busy people.. Whistle

Well, you need to think about it to reply to this post. Then there is the question of what to contribute. What can you say to add to this discussion? And many of the viewers have decided to not spam up your thread Razz I'll pick up what you're saying and go slightly off topic.

I happen to agree with you.
I guess we lose track of our aims in a morass of other minor things that somehow fail to remain as minor as they are. Two questions you need to ask yourself - what do you want? And how will what you are doing get you what you want? And are you sure that you aren't reaching for something in order to get or keep something else?

There is this Last Lecture by Randy Pausch* which is about living your dreams. He says - make a list of your dreams. Don't restrict it to the possible and the feasible. Really, what your dreams are -- and aim to get it before you die. It is a real must read (will put link in as soon as I find it again), he talks about what he did.

-- and so, money matters become minor. After all, to most of us, money is the means, not the ends. And the biggest confusion people have is mixing the two up. e.g.
I have a dream. I want to see the world - Russia, Japan, France. Go bungee jumping off Australian cliffs (no, no rational reason for it. I just want to.) and I could do all that if I had a lot of money, but if I went chasing after money, I could also lose track of my seeing the world in the jet-setting life style.

And so, clear vision is essential. Smile But I'd say don't limit your vision ... there are alternate routes to get what you want... and never let go of something impossible just because it seems impossible.

*Last Lecture being a series of talks held by Carnegie Mellon. They invite dying professors etc to give a talk - if you knew that this is your last lecture, what would you say? What would you share?

But, this is a beautiful add-on to the original text..

And here's the link to that lecture: -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbtuEpVJRsw

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And for those of you without YouTube (like me): PDF of transcript is here
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~pausch/Randy/paus...script.pdf

Aichelles - if that compliment was for me, then thanks. Smile Else my pleasure to bring something interesting up.

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