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Can u plz compare US, Canada and germany?
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Can u plz compare US, Canada and germany?
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I want to know which is d best among Us, canada, germany wid respect to
1.MS in electronic or electrical engg
2.Job opportunities after MS
3.Tution and Living Cost
4.Acquiring a Visa
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Quote:3.Tution and Living Cost
Europe. No tuition fees.

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(08-04-2011 05:54 PM)billa Wrote:  
Quote:3.Tution and Living Cost
Europe. No tuition fees.

Europe charges tuition fee now, except for University of Helsinki.

Quote:4.Acquiring a Visa

US has one of the most stringent visa processes in the world. I'm not too much familiar with how Germany functions, but for a fact I know that other European countries such as Netherlands and Sweden have a relatively formality-like visa interviews.

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(08-04-2011 06:04 PM)Sol Invictus Wrote:  Europe charges tuition fee now, except for University of Helsinki.

but even then the tuition fees in Europe are far lesser than the USA..

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(08-04-2011 07:22 PM)gparam Wrote:  
(08-04-2011 06:04 PM)Sol Invictus Wrote:  Europe charges tuition fee now, except for University of Helsinki.

but even then the tuition fees in Europe are far lesser than the USA..

Not necessarily true. Living in Europe is costly. You will find cheap universities in US as well. I'm not denying that generically speaking, US universities do tend to appear expensive than their EU counterparts, but then (in the same context), opportunities are also more, isn't it?

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^+1 Agree
I have read in many threads here that getting a job for a non-EU citizen in Europe is next to impossible. Not that its great in USA but atleast there is a better chance.

Edit: But living costs in Germany are not too high from what i've read. I picked this up from a thread some place that as far as living costs go: London>>LA>NY>Munich

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Well, a job more or less depends on the person himself rather than the country he is studying in, and I know a good number of people in Europe that found jobs immediately after graduating (I speak for the people coming from my field only, i.e. Food Biochemistry, and comparatively, Europe has a bigger market for it than US).
For Computer Science, US is the mecca.
But there must be a reason everyone flocks to US and Europe is, more often than not, the second choice for students.

Edit: Well, if you compare Germany with LA or NY, of course you win hands down. There is no scope of discussion left. But what about the expensive cities there (I'm guessing Berlin) with College Station, Texas/Lincoln-Nebraska?

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Getting a job depends on you. Not the country. If you suck, you wont get appropriate jobs and vice versa.

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There goes your answer, OP. Summed up in the least number of words!

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Tuition - Most German universities charge a pittance in the name of tuition fees, if they have such a thing as tuition fees at all. In general, you may assume a sum of 500 Euros per semester, which may include things like administrative cost, etc.

Living Cost - Again. This is variable and is a function of the place you are in. But a general assumption for Germany is 400-700 Euros per month.

Part-time Jobs - It goes without saying that there are limited opportunities for if you don't know German. However, it is not that bad either, and if you put in effort, you will find something to support your living expenses.

Jobs - Most of the time, people continue in the company they did their internship/final year thesis in. Most of the other people have worded their opinions well, and I do not have more to add to that.

Acquiring a Visa - The German visa process is simple. Answer some questions about the university, course, future plans and facts about the region - and you will have the visa. The same goes for other places in Europe. For UK, you don't even have an interview, but the requirements are more stringent. But, Europe, in general, wins hands down in the visa scene as compared to US.

There you go, you have your generalized answers!

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(08-04-2011 06:04 PM)Sol Invictus Wrote:  Europe charges tuition fee now, except for University of Helsinki.

Germany/Austria/France/Italy/Spain/Potugal: Tuition fees varies from 500 -1000 eur/year

Finland/Norway: Totally free education

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What i said was kind of a general statement. Certainly urban areas would be more expensive than the rural areas.

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(08-04-2011 08:20 PM)billa Wrote:  
(08-04-2011 06:04 PM)Sol Invictus Wrote:  Europe charges tuition fee now, except for University of Helsinki.

Germany/Austria/France/Italy/Spain/Potugal: Tuition fees varies from 500 -1000 eur/year

Finland/Norway: Totally free education

Finland: Totally free education. Absolutely True.

Germany: Inexpensive is the word. But how many students do actually prefer Austria or Portugal to study? Not too many is my best bet.

Switzerland/Netherlands/Belgium/UK/Sweden: They are not that cheap, are they?
In fact my tuition at Cornell as compared to a certain university in Sweden I thought of applying once is a penny's difference.

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@Sol Invictus: I was talking about the tuition fees only. Its not easy to compare two countries, there are lots of things to consider.
For example, if you compare in NJIT, Louisiana State University or some similar school in US with Imperial College or KTH in Europe, i think it should be easy to decide.
Also, if you compare Cornell, CMU or any other awesome school in US, with some not-so-cool European school with free education, but you are unable to arrange ~50,000$. You might not be so happy but you know its not in your hands. So, it totally depends what options you have.

I like the fact that in European countries (except UK), all universities have almost same standards, unlike US.

I guess sometimes the past just catches up with you, whether you want it to or not.
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Indeed, European schools are equally awesome. As a matter of fact, I was going to study at a university in Netherlands till June end over Cornell, with no financial constraints influencing my decision, until I tanked my PhD decision and went for the more elite school with a much better brand name.
There is a lot that US can offer which EU cannot, and vice versa. I like the fact that Europe is more peaceful, or is it just me, I dont know, guess have to find out.

As I see, you are much more qualified over this European discussion than I'll ever be Smile, but I would like to contradict with you that all European universities are of the same standards. I have come across some really good universities there, and yet, pathetic ones as well, more so in the UK(Scotland/Britain region).

Out of curiosity, I would want to know from you something, but would have to take that offline Laughing

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